Reminds me of Hitler

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Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Guest » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:38 pm

Remember during World War2, when if you didn't agree with Hitler you were sent to the nazi war camps or worse? If you weren't positive and pro NAZI, you were gone. It appears that Gannett has taken a similar additude. If you are not POSITIVE, you are gone. You cannot speak of all the negative this company bombards us with each and every day. Yes, we have the brown shirts among us, but this time, thank god, it is not about the jews, but about the non-positive employees. The employees that speak the truth about corporate, that tell the numbers of laid off employees, that discuss the injustice that is being created between digital and print every day. We hear and feel the discrimination. We are supposed to endure it. You are old, you can't learn the new technology, we are moving toward digital and guess what, we will only tell certain people and not include you in the process. That way we have just reasons to eliminate you in the next round of layoffs. It is insanity! Corporate, wake the hell up! Corporate digtial, train your remaining employees, otherwise we are so doomed it isn't even funny anymore. We are close to $3 a share and we have lost the respect of the world at this point. You cannot in the digital age, screw over more than 50% of your workforce and expect Wall street to welcome you with open arms. It's not going to happen. The stock will never come back until you do what is right by your employees. We will scream from the rooftops ” We're not going to take this anymore” We have strength in numbers and will tell the press, the blogs, tweet, whatever it takes to show the world what you have done to your employees. It's not just Craig and Gracia anymore — It's all 40,000 plus employees who aren't grateful for what you have given us and we will speak out! to who ever will hear us, the horrific sick mind games you have played on us for the last week and half and we will survive, but will Gannett! Crowdsourcing works and we will beat you at your own game! May the best player win.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby RationalityPlease » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:10 am

Your analogy is so incredibly offensive.

I ask you to think again about comparing a stressful job situation to those who were systemically marginalized, abused and ultimately killed.

You need to look yourself in the mirror tomorrow and think about what sort of crazy privilege and sense of self-entitlement would move you to compare your job woes with genocide.

That's just perverse, and your sense of scale reinforces that you should be laid off.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Dr. Syn » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:53 am

Any comparison to the Holocaust is so over the top as to be meaningless here.

I know we're all in pain, but let's get some perspective here.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby slavewidget » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:30 pm

I respect the views opposing, but I don't find that post offensive at all. It speaks to a certain dynamic, a method, and it states so. I see the analogy myself. I don't know much about history, but I do know that critique in the Third Reich was not seen as input, but as some threat, no different than in the slippery slopes of Gannett. Talk about paranoid. It is not in any case ever tolerated. It is first resented. If you suggest another course, you're essentially taken out and shot, career-wise. Ostracized. Like fascism, it's a sick, self-destructive, short-sighted thing. This is not some racial ideology of course. Nobody's being gassed in extermination camps. We're just left unemployed, a lot of the best talent that Gannett had. That's the same thing the fascists did. Can we say "Albert Einstein?" The Apollo program? Only elsewhere could talent flourish. How Gannett is that.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Anonymouse » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:03 pm

Dr. Syn wrote:Any comparison to the Holocaust is so over the top as to be meaningless here.

I know we're all in pain, but let's get some perspective here.

Where in the post did the poster mention the holocaust? Give me a flipping break!
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Anonymouse » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:06 pm

RationalityPlease wrote:Your analogy is so incredibly offensive.

I ask you to think again about comparing a stressful job situation to those who were systemically marginalized, abused and ultimately killed.

You need to look yourself in the mirror tomorrow and think about what sort of crazy privilege and sense of self-entitlement would move you to compare your job woes with genocide.

That's just perverse, and your sense of scale reinforces that you should be laid off.

WTF? You found the posting offensive? Comparing Hitler (Agree with me or die) to Gannett management (Agree with me or you're fired) is a pretty good analogy in my book.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Nonya » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:10 am

Yeah. Comparing the killing (which is forever) of 12 million to the layoff (which is usually a temporary state) of 1,000 is offensive. There are still people alive with concentration mark tattoos on their arms, ffs. Try telling them that anything we went through this week is on the level with what they endured.

Gannett management was insensitive, bumbling, careless, cold and disrespectful. All of that. But never compare a genocide to anything but a genocide.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Dr. Syn » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:57 pm

Anonymouse wrote:
Dr. Syn wrote:Any comparison to the Holocaust is so over the top as to be meaningless here.

I know we're all in pain, but let's get some perspective here.

Where in the post did the poster mention the holocaust? Give me a flipping break!

Right there in line 1, dude: "Remember during World War2, when if you didn't agree with Hitler you were sent to the nazi war camps or worse?"

I believe you'll find that the Holocaust happened at "Nazi war camps."

I won't hold my breath for your apology, though.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Guest » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:50 pm

Yes, I will apologize to anyone this has offended. I was not trying to offend anyone. I was making an extreme point, because an extreme point needed to be made. It was not posted to offend anyone. It was posted to show how extreme Gannett has been to their employees to protect their bottom line. This was not done to make a similar comparision, because there is none. You cannot compare human life with what Gannett has done. I wanted to make a point. Anything that is extreme, could lead to more. It got people's attention and that was the point. What Hitler did was ignorned for too long and too late. I want all Gannett employees to be informed early before we miss the point. We never want to ignore something like the world did with hitler. I apologize for offending anything. That was not the reason for the post. It was to awaken us all to the issues that are still happening in Gannett. It was never meant to ever compare to such a horrific raping of human life. I am a jew and would never do this.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby cynical » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:52 pm

I find your analogy offensive and igorant. how dare you make that comparison!
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Guest » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:00 pm

That is what is great about the first amendment. We have a choice to speak our opinions.Thank you for your input.

I find your analogy offensive and igorant. how dare you make that comparison
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Mr.T » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:15 pm

I think we are taking this totally out of perspective. Yes, it was offensive. But we have to agree that Gannett has done something, though not as sick, to their employees. I think the person, in some perverse way, was trying to say that Gannett has treated their employees like a second class citizen. Yes, this was an exteme comparision, and should of never been compared this way, since there is no comparision. But in some sick way. i think I do understand what they were saying. This person is obviously very young and doesn't understand what really happened in WW2. Let please excuse their ignorance and try to read between the lines of what they were trying to say. You have to remember these kids don't really know the truth about what happened. We know, so we can only take pity on this generation of kids, that don't understand the truth of what really happened.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Guest » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:15 pm

It's not a real internet message board until someone invokes a Hitler comparison.

By the way, I understand the ideaology behind what was initially posted. Hitler did plenty in his totalitarian regime to stifle the masses -- more than just committing the Holocaust. I think what the original poster was alluding to was those things, not the ultimate example of Hitler's atrocities.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby emerson » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:47 am

It's the same political correctness as required during Hitler's 'time in office' and it reminds me of the required attitude in GCI and has for years.

Remember all those initiatives? Local, local, Real People Real News, Upscale pub, Young reader pubs, Moms Like Me? Whether they seemed to make sense our not in our local markets, we HAD to enthusiastically embrace them. When we tried to tailor them to our markets and give them spark, they were watered down into blandness by the Jennifer Carrolls of the world.

Now they're just being being eliminated in so many markets. If they were so essential, why eliminate them, even the profitable ones?

Used to be editorial had integrity about the news and look of the paper. The first time reducing the image to fit on narrower newsprint, editorial raised many ethical objections. Electronically narrowing a photo was scorned as beneath an editor. No objections anymore and no more redesigns to accomodate the narrower paper. Classifieds are so squashed, they look ridiculous and are unreadable, particularly by the demographic that still buys and reads the paper .

Hitler started slowly and did increasingly outrageous things because he wasn't stopped and no one who complained survived. Same with GCI employees. We're just not physically killed.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Guest » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:50 pm

emerson wrote:Hitler started slowly and did increasingly outrageous things because he wasn't stopped and no one who complained survived. Same with GCI employees. We're just not physically killed.

Can all of you who keep this ridiculous analogy going please stop with it? Get a grip. Quit your job if you don't like it. Gannett won't hunt you down and kill you and your family.

My god, the sense of scale here is so out of whack. It's an embarrassment, frankly, to see professional journalists write such foolishness.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Phantom 309 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:56 am

Guest wrote:
Can all of you who keep this ridiculous analogy going please stop with it? Get a grip. Quit your job if you don't like it. Gannett won't hunt you down and kill you and your family.

My god, the sense of scale here is so out of whack. It's an embarrassment, frankly, to see professional journalists write such foolishness.

Amen. I can't imagine what anyone who lost family in "The Final Solution" would think reading this.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby sadbuttrue » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:45 am

yea this hitler analogy makes sense...we use it at my work too, some people rule with an iron fist and make work feel like a prison...i get that no one is dying and that it was a historical tragedy, but man there are sure people as evil as that and i bet they would kill you if they could...so many people use the analogy at my work maybe were all going to hell, oh wait we work for GANNETT we are allready in HELL...
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby annoyed » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:57 am

sadbuttrue wrote:yea this hitler analogy makes sense...we use it at my work too, some people rule with an iron fist and make work feel like a prison...i get that no one is dying and that it was a historical tragedy, but man there are sure people as evil as that and i bet they would kill you if they could...so many people use the analogy at my work maybe were all going to hell, oh wait we work for GANNETT we are allready in HELL...

This is the most offensive thread on here. Gannettoid, can you do something about this? If you don't like the situation, whoever you are, why the hell didn't you opt-out?
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby Gannettoid » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:02 am

annoyed wrote:This is the most offensive thread on here. Gannettoid, can you do something about this? If you don't like the situation, whoever you are, why the hell didn't you opt-out?

I've been following this thread. I may lock it soon, but no matter how far off an analogy is, just as someone compares something to Hitler, the discussion leads to someone bringing things back to common sense.
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Re: Reminds me of Hitler

Unread postby annoyed » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:15 am

Gannettoid wrote:
annoyed wrote:This is the most offensive thread on here. Gannettoid, can you do something about this? If you don't like the situation, whoever you are, why the hell didn't you opt-out?

I've been following this thread. I may lock it soon, but no matter how far off an analogy is, just as someone compares something to Hitler, the discussion leads to someone bringing things back to common sense.

I guess you didn't understand my post or I wasn't clear. Why did you let it get so far, Gannettoid? Moderators MODERATE.
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